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PostSubject: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeMon May 05, 2014 9:32 pm

Hi there,
So here's the Problem: Icant get rid of those annoying black particles -.-

i use lightworks and you probably sony vegas but essentialy it should be the same :)

Hope someone can help me....
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeMon May 05, 2014 11:42 pm

can you post a screen shot?? i cannot understand what exactly the problem is
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeMon May 05, 2014 11:48 pm

TheInvisibleBlackxX wrote:
can you post a screen shot?? i cannot understand what exactly the problem is


I was about to write the same!
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeMon May 05, 2014 11:55 pm

if your software has options for high and low thresholds then keep increasing them till the pixels are gone. The options might have some other names like color tolerance or something like that, but the general idea is making the color disappear by playing with the options your software gives you
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 3:34 pm

when it doubt. mask everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 7:24 pm

Heres a image so you can take a look at it
the first thingy to move (missing the word right now xD) changes nothing or at least nothing relevant
the second one makes it grey and does not change the black particles

i dont now how to mask so ill may ask you guys xD

thanks for trying to help me :)

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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 8:01 pm

well one thing would be that you're not recommended to apply chroma keyer on clips where colors are all over the place, chroma keyer is best applied to clips where 1 color is clearly separated and in great contrast from the rest.

Like the hot and sexeh Jessica Alba here
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Is standing in front of a green background, so keying the green color would be easy since she's wearing black and thank goodness her skin ain't green.
So yes the main idea is to have a color that can be separated to produce a "meaningful" image
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 8:02 pm

yeah i know it had a black background and it is already applied in the image
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 8:07 pm

then hmm.. i'm afraid i'll be useless here Lol, if none of the 2 parameters is actually controlling the thresholds then my only conclusion would be that your software does not give you the abilities of complex keying, I wouldn't really ask anybody to ever change their softwares Lol, but yo sony vegas does it better yo so... your choice hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 8:16 pm

try applying a second chroma-keyer effect, this time choose the color of that black particle. (there's that tool that takes the color of wherever you click at, use that one to get the particle's color)
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 8:23 pm

hmhmhmhmmhmhmhmhmhmh

a second one works but at some point not because it seems to be the same color as the entiere picture (what doesnt makes anysense -.-)
soooooooo........what about masks? :D

@Gabber If you have the keygen ill try it, it got banned on every website xD
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 8:31 pm

you know what?
Ill just crop it out -.-


if you know a better solution.........GIMME IT xD
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 9:16 pm

Get the program from this link, follow the boy's directions and you shall install it just fine.

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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeTue May 06, 2014 11:17 pm

thank you very much ^^ but im so used to lightworks right now, i wont change so soon......and i actually dont really like to crack programms, i mean okay they wont find out but it still feels so wrong :/
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeWed May 07, 2014 12:17 am

won't matter after a week from cracking.
and we can only help you (A LOT) in sony vegas, and a bit of after effects, but none of us uses lightworks :/
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PostSubject: Re: Problems with keying   Problems with keying Icon_minitimeSat May 10, 2014 4:37 pm

no you already helped me alot ;) it is enough if you say how it is descriped in vegas
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