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Author(s): 995Gabber (0:00 - 0:34) + (1:00 - 1:30) & KenshiroAMV (0:34 - 1:00) + (1:30 - end)
Productions: Ellines Nakama (He's in no production)
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Loved it. It was a great job by the both of you. Good Luck in the IC.
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Thanks man :) and yes Tekken deserves a shout out!
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Do you Play Tekken Btw Gab ?
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it's my favorite console game actually
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Congrats on your first collab Gab-chan [995Gabber&KenshiroAMV] Eliminate! (1/7/2013) 2228474649 .I want to point out a few things on it that i personally found inappropriate in your part.

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First of all,zero impact due to zero colour correction,some incoherent masks like the blue and red flying lines on your first part and i understood you need to work more on your pan/zooming because it's a wonderful tool with dealing with beats which you didn't do so well and as a result i'm almost confident that if i put any music track behind your collab,it'll have the same impact.Also,i dunno if you edited that transition with Gon in 0:33 but it looks pretty darn mediocre.That;s not how you do a masked transition...

Let's talk a bit about pacing,shall we?Your pacing is off due to some scenes giving impact and the next scene is too slow and with half of the impact the previous one had,example from start to 0:04 with the kid from Brave 10,too slow and not really much impact.Go practice and find tools to make a scene have impact,i don't want to suggest anything because i don't want to affect whatever unique style you might have.

To as why the variation of transitions was ranging from plain clip-gluing to actually decent ideas baffles my mind.You have a transition on 0:08 where you just put the clip of the nine tail fox ,or whatever that is,after the clip of Archer from Fate stay night without any effort to persuade someone calling it a decent transition and then you try to pull something good in 0:16 with the smoke or at 0:22 with the summoning circle.However you cut the summoning circle scene short and did another tasteless transition.Why mask and use something if it leads to a 101 transition?This just kept happening throughout the amv,which in the end showed you wouldn't sit down and polish it properly or that you were overly excited with the one good thing you edited and then overlooked all the rest.I mentioned the good transitions because it's proof you're able of coming up with some good stuff and cannot be excused for the quickies you did.If you only had replied when i suggested beta testing,you would have conquered the world...

I think you are capable of much more even in just three days because this is just a one minute edit and even if it was a 2 min edit by yourself i believe you could have done much more better.Good luck in your results nevertheless. ;)

Take consideration that i'm not good at typing gently and this is unintentionally bashful but a 100% objective opinion.If you don't find anything useful above it's ok to ignore it.
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Pieetrr wrote:
Also,i dunno if you edited that transition with Gon in 0:33 but it looks pretty darn mediocre.That;s not how you do a masked transition...

hmm tht was mine lol, yah it didnt really fit well so yh my bad~ and erm i know ur gonna have a like a fuckin field day with my parts, but could u post some critique about them? if u have time ofc. i know i need to work allot, and dont worry about takin it easy~ gimme all u got lol. (jk not tht much D:)
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Nice guys!
About 00:33, some linear blur and then a nice zoom in to the next scene would help imo.


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Thanks peter :)
But I don't think I'll ever refer to Color Correction since I personally despise it and prefer my clips raw. About the impact, I was trying to follow Kyoroichi's advice and not have my shakes / zooms overpowered, but I guess you're right, perhaps I made them way too weak actually. what you said about the pacing makes perfect sense, I guess that's a new thing I could focus on from now on.
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@KenshiroAMV Well to be precise it's more like the scene was inappropriate for the transition but still it was badly executed.I don't want to sound like hot shit or something but i'll find time to look through your parts tomorrow because i'm kind of tired now xD

@Gab-chan Colouring despises you?Why?Colour spamming is one thing,but fixing up your clips to look decent is something really important.It also helps with transitioning cause it helps blending colours.There is a difference in overpowered and not at all.Also for the kind of amv you did it was kind of necessary.I don't think Kyoroichi does this sort of amv or if he does he has many other advanced tools to transition properly.
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